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Publié : 08 sept. 2005, 20:33 PM
par Estelle

Statistiquement, si tu voles avec moi, tu n'auras jamais de crash! :yeah:


Publié : 08 sept. 2005, 20:40 PM
par leo69
Estelle a écrit :

Statistiquement, si tu voles avec moi, tu n'auras jamais de crash! :yeah:

T'as pas froid aux yeux d'écrire des trucs pareils sur un forum à majorité masculine :D

Bon je sais....
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Publié : 13 sept. 2005, 14:22 PM
par raspoutine

Des infos i,téressantes sur les circonstances du crash du vol Helios Chypre-Athènes :

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/06/news/crash.php

Apparament, l'équipage a complètement foiré.


Publié : 13 sept. 2005, 15:28 PM
par Pascalito

"j'aime" surtout le passage disant que le pilote allemand et le copilote chypriote avaient des difficultés à se comprendrent, chacun avec leur anglais basique commun :oh: :oups:

pas top de communiquer et de coordonner des actions rapides quand l'avion affiche des alarmes de partout :hum:


Publié : 13 sept. 2005, 15:46 PM
par Benji
Pascalito a écrit :

"j'aime" surtout le passage disant que le pilote allemand et le copilote chypriote avaient des difficultés à se comprendrent, chacun avec leur anglais basique commun :oh: :oups:

pas top de communiquer et de coordonner des actions rapides quand l'avion affiche des alarmes de partout :hum:

Il y a surtout le fait de ne pas être capable de reconnaitre une alarme de base. Impardonnable pour DEUX pilotes professionnels.

Il n'y a que 13 alarmes sonores différentes émises par l'EFIS et le GPWS.
Les voilà toutes :
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/sounds.htm

(Brrr, pour avoir eu mon brevet de pilote quelques années, certains sons me foutent encore la chaire poule)

POur les problèmes de communication, ce n'est pas la première fois qu'ils causent des accidents :

"In 1977, at Tenerife in the Canary Islands, heavy accents and improper terminology among a Dutch KLM crew, an American Pan Am crew and a Spanish air traffic controller led to the worst aviation disaster in history, in which 583 passengers perished.

In 1980, another Spanish air traffic controller at Tenerife gave a holding pattern clearance to a Dan Air flight by saying "turn to the left" when he should have said "turns to the left" - resulting in the aircraft making a single left turn rather than making circles using left turns. The jet hit a mountain killing 146 people.

In 1990, Colombian Avianca pilots in a holding pattern over Kennedy Airport told controllers that their 707 was low on fuel. The crew should have stated they had a "fuel emergency," which would have given them immediate clearance to land. Instead, the crew declared a "minimum fuel" condition and the plane ran out of fuel, crashing and killing 72 people.

In 1993, Chinese pilots flying a U.S.-made MD-80 were attempting to land in northwest China. The pilots were baffled by an audio alarm from the plane's ground proximity warning system. A cockpit recorder picked up the pilot's last words: "What does 'pull up' mean?"

In 1995, an American Airlines jet crashed into a mountain in Colombia after the captain instructed the autopilot to steer towards the wrong beacon. A controller later stated that he suspected from the pilot's communications that the jet was in trouble, but that the controller's English was not sufficient for him to understand and articulate the problem.

On November 13, 1996, a Saudi Arabian airliner and a Kazakhstan plane collided in mid-air near New Delhi, India. While an investigation is still pending, early indications are that the Kazak pilot may not have been sufficiently fluent in English and was consequently unable to understand an Indian controller giving instructions in English. "

Si vous voulez vous dégouter du vol :
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/

http://www.airdisaster.com


Publié : 13 sept. 2005, 16:01 PM
par Benji

Sinon, il y a aussi de grands chanceux :

"The plane crashed after the detonation of a bomb in the forward cargo hold. A flight attendant, 22 year old Vesna Vulovic, fell 33,330 feet in the tail section and although she broke both legs and was paralyzed from the waist down, survived. She was in a coma for 27 days and it took 16 months for her to recover. The bomb was believed to be placed on the plane by a Croatian extremist group."

Note : elle remarche. Elle fait même partie du gouvernement slovaque... :D

"On a flight from Birmingham, England to Malaga, Spain, at FL 173, a large section of windshield fell away from the aircraft. The decompression pulled the captain out from under his seatbelt. Despite trying to hold onto the yoke, the captain was sucked out into the opening. A steward in the cockpit was able to grab hold of his legs. Another steward was able to strap himself into the vacant seat and aid in holding onto the captain's legs. The copilot wearing full restraints made an emergency landing at Southampton. The captain remained half way out of the aircraft for 15 minutes and suffered only frostbite and some fractures. Improper bolts used to replace the windshield two days earlier resulted in the accident. "


Publié : 13 sept. 2005, 16:16 PM
par Pascalito
Benji a écrit :

Sinon, il y a aussi de grands chanceux :

"On a flight from Birmingham, England to Malaga, Spain, at FL 173, a large section of windshield fell away from the aircraft. The decompression pulled the captain out from under his seatbelt. Despite trying to hold onto the yoke, the captain was sucked out into the opening. A steward in the cockpit was able to grab hold of his legs. Another steward was able to strap himself into the vacant seat and aid in holding onto the captain's legs. The copilot wearing full restraints made an emergency landing at Southampton. The captain remained half way out of the aircraft for 15 minutes and suffered only frostbite and some fractures. Improper bolts used to replace the windshield two days earlier resulted in the accident. "

Celui là, j'ai vu ily a quelques jours un document sur planète traitant du cas avec intervention du pilote et de l'équipage et le traitement de l'enquête